Proving Your Fears Wrong with Angela Bullock | Ep. 5

Overview

My guest on this week’s episode of The True North Show is Angela Bullock who is so inspiration and has so much energy that you can’t help but sit and listen to what she wants to share.  Her approach to everything is filled with energy and passion and there are so many golden nuggets of wisdom in our time together that I think you will need a pen!

Bio:

Ever felt like you’re meant for more, but no matter how hard you try, it still feels like you’re stuck hustling in the dark?

You’ve done the healing. You’ve helped others. You know you’re here to change lives. But the business side?  The visibility, the tech, the sales? It just doesn’t feel like it was made for someone like you.

That’s exactly why Angela Bullock is a name every soul-led entrepreneur needs to know.

She’s the best-selling author of The Messy Mum’s Playbook, the creator of the Monkey Mind Madness app that’s been used in classrooms across New South Wales, and a former therapist and life coach who turned her side hustle into a soul-aligned empire.

Now? She’s one of the pioneers of emotionally-activated AI marketing, helping coaches, healers, and creatives finally break free from burnout business models—and actually make money doing what they love.

Angela blends powerful mindset work, manifestation, trauma-informed strategy, and AI-powered systems to help women step into their next-level wealth, confidence, and clarity.

If you’ve ever thought: “I know I’m meant for more—but I just don’t know how to get there…” Angela is the how.

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Transcript:

Megan North (00:39)
Hello and welcome to The True North Show, a show where we dive into the pivotal moments that ignite our guests’ passion, uncover the stories behind their purpose, and reveal the real life strategies they use to save balance and prioritize mental well-being. Get ready for inspiring conversations that light the way to living with intention, resilience, while following your true north. I’m your host, Megan North, and I would like to thank our sponsors of the show, Quantum Awakening, Beth Lewis, Anne C. Clark, and our lovely guest who paid to be featured on this episode.

Today, I am joined by Angela Bullock, and her name is a name every soul-led entrepreneur needs to know. She’s the bestselling author of The Messy Mums Playbook, the creator of the Monkey Mind Madness app that’s been used in classrooms across New South Wales in Australia, and a former therapist and life coach who turned her side hustle into a soul aligned empire. Now she’s one of the pioneers of emotionally activated AI marketing, helping coaches, healers and creatives finally break through from burnout business models and actually make money. what they love doing. Angela blends powerful mindset work, manifestation, trauma-informed strategy and AI-powered systems to help women step into their next level wealth, confidence and clarity. If you’ve ever thought, I know I meant for more, but I just don’t know how to get there, Angela is the how. Welcome to the show, Angela. Thanks so much for joining us.

Angela Bullock (02:32)
Hello everyone!

Megan North (02:35)
I love it and I can’t wait for our conversation. So let’s dive in. So what was the defining moment that led you to pursue your true passion and purpose?

Angela Bullock (02:41)
Bye, sorry.

So it’s funny. So I’m just going to take a little side note from that question for a moment because as I was watching the intro roll in and it was your soul knows the way right and you’re always meant to be exactly where you are right now and I But you’re everyone goes well, does our song know the way right and it comes in multiple forms But most of the time we don’t see it right so it presents

as adults, as our passions, as our dreams, right? But when we’re children, it’s our go-to. We don’t even realize we’re following our true north when we’re kids because we’re just doing what comes naturally to us. When I was watching that, was like, yeah, like we just follow our intuition and our gut feelings as kids, right? We’re like, I’m gonna throw on the cowgirl hat.

Megan North (03:31)
Yeah!

Angela Bullock (03:42)
and the ballet slippers and all my mum’s jewellery and feel amazing. And then as we grow up, we condition ourselves to fit into societal norms, right? So when I think about where my pivotal moment was, was unfortunately at the complete breakdown of my marriage, when I actually saw that as the most amazing opportunity for me to check in and go, am I living the life that I actually want?

And the answer was no, because I realized I was kind of like molding myself off my mother’s relationship and what society told me I should be like. And I was just going through the motions, generally kind of happy, but not happy. You know, when you think you’re happy, but if you’re actually checked in, you’re like, no, I’m really not happy. And that’s when I realized I wasn’t heading my true north. Actually, I felt like I was on a slippery slope to the south. But that was my pivotal moment because

Megan North (04:31)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (04:42)
I feel like life, especially when we hit adulthood, presents us with challenges and situations that are not fun. And it’s really saying, hey love, is this what you want? ⁓ But instead of taking that moment to sit back and go, what do I want? ⁓ What do I love? What am I actually naturally gifted at? as a kid, intuitively just did because it felt natural. As an adult, I’ve resisted it because I’ve tried to confess.

form, it was that one that led to that back against the wall moment, right? But you know, like what I would love to say, which is kind of probably not even the question is like, have a look, how many times have you had those my backs against the wall moment, but shrugged forward anyway, when really that was that moment with the universe tapped you on the shoulder and went, Hey, babe, what do you want? And you’re like, no, I’m just going to keep doing this way. So for me, that was it. But if I look back before that moment, I

I just had ignored them. So I know that was like a two sideways part, but watching the intro is that guide your true north. That’s your intuition. That’s your dream. And it presents as passions or a dream like that you keep, I’d really love to have this. then our fears kick in and go, but I can’t be caught.

Megan North (05:42)
many others.

Yeah, yeah, and I love that that you’ve opened with that too because I’d love to explore a little bit further of I think Pete there’s so much fear when it comes into thinking I would love to do this but I can’t because of this reason and I remember four years ago when I left very successful HR corporate career to do my own thing and I remember

There was a senior executive at a really large organization that I was working for at the time and I was supporting him and his team. And he said, you’re incredible, like to have the courage to just do what you’re doing. And I said to him, I have no doubt in my mind that I’m going to be successful. It just was never a doubt. had no fear. And he was like, really? There’s not. And I said, I said, that’s why I’m doing it.

Angela Bullock (06:52)
Thank

Megan North (07:00)
And, it, it, it took me a while. I mean, that was four years ago. So I was 47, but it me a while, but it’s that, it’s that having that inner, inner trust, inner knowing, courage, confidence, all of it to just step into it and just go, this is what I’ve got to do.

Angela Bullock (07:20)
Well, part of the thing about fears and they, doesn’t matter, like fear of parenting, fear of getting old, fear of dating, fear of starting a business. doesn’t matter. Insert whatever it is that you want to do, right? Fear is going to come up. But the problem is people don’t see fear because fear is disguised as logic. Right? Feels logical to us. And then because our brains, our brains are wired to

Megan North (07:41)
Right.

Angela Bullock (07:49)
not make us wrong. ⁓ So if you go and anything that comes after a but I’m famous for saying it’s an excuse. It really is an excuse. I want this but what’s coming after the but let’s navigate them. Let’s destroy them. Let’s bring them down. How can we work around them? If it comes up what comes I always say let’s work out the master plan for the worst case scenario. Once you know you can slay that dragon, what’s going to get in your way?

⁓ That’s why we surround ourselves with women to remind ourselves of that. That’s why it’s so important. But our brain will say, right, you’ve said you can’t, you’ve said this, so I am now going to, that’s the reticular activation system, I’m now gonna get proof. And it brings people into your life that reflects back to you that logical fear. You’re old, you’ve got young kids, but you might not make the money, but you might fail.

Megan North (08:39)
Yeah.

Yes.

Angela Bullock (08:47)
Aunt June, who I see once every four years at Christmas, she’s going to bring out every judgment stick and I don’t want to have that, right? Or I don’t want to be bullied like I was at school. And on that note, I believe most women that have the audacity to stand up and pursue their dreams never felt like they fit in at school, ever. We never felt like we fit in at school, ever.

Megan North (09:16)
No, I didn’t.

Angela Bullock (09:17)
No, I’ve never met anyone that did. Right. And so what do we do to fit it? get bullied so we conform. So what are we doing when we conforming? We’re leading into our fears. Our fears are designed to keep us safe, but baby safe, right? You’re okay. each other, right? And that’s where you’ve got to go. I never fit in. That’s true. Why? Because you had a bigger passion. You were driven where other people weren’t and people

Megan North (09:34)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (09:46)
struggle to understand that in us. We’re a 1 % club. We really are, right? Because if it was easy, most people would do it, but most people aren’t. And I say insert any dream, insert any dream and most people will shoot it down because that’s belief systems, that’s their experience. Plus without realizing it,

Megan North (09:49)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Angela Bullock (10:15)
subconsciously, we’ve invited them into our life and said, I need you here to keep me safe and remind me of my fears. And when you realize that fear is normally dressed up as logic, you just go, ⁓ I’ve seen you before. I know what you’re doing.

Megan North (10:25)
Yeah.

Hello, I’m going to close the door on you today.

Angela Bullock (10:34)
Yeah, I always say fear gets to go in the backseat. You go, okay, is this thought, is this feeling, is what I’m about to do going to move me forward towards what I want? And if it’s no, it’s like, okay, well, I’m going to press pause on that, chuck it in the backseat. All right. And I’m to move forward. And if three days from now, I still feel like I can’t, then I will readdress it. But if you press pause on your fears and you totally can press pause on fears, right? It’s just a thought.

Megan North (11:03)
Yeah. Music.

Angela Bullock (11:04)
Pursue the passion anyway, I can guarantee all those excuses that you thought they just disappear. Or you start inviting people in unconsciously, someone will turn up and go, did you, can help you with this. do you know what I mean? Like, serendipity things start falling into place, but you’ve got to get out of your own way first. So it’s noticing is that’s the question. Is this helping me move forward? No, really. Okay. Well.

Megan North (11:11)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (11:34)
Breathe, press pause, feel your body like you’re okay. Tell yourself you’re safe because that’s old conditioning and go, right, what do I need? What do I need to make this work? And your intuition will always give you the next step.

What most women wait for is the next 10 steps.

Megan North (11:56)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (11:56)
Okay. And here’s the thing, the universe will never give you 10 steps because you’re going to very quickly turn them into, my God, I’m so overwhelmed. can’t do it. Every time. Overwhelm is a choice. Yeah. I say it all the time. You either have three, three options. Number one, I’m overwhelmed. That, that paralyzes you. Can’t do anything. Yep. Right. Or I’m really busy. I have a lot going on. That’s your invitation to prioritize. What do I need to do first? What matters first? Yeah.

As a mom, I’m a mom to three, my family matters, right? So I’ll always go, right, have I got food? Have I got dinner ready? What’s important for me and my value system around my family? So I make sure that’s set. Then it’s my business and my clients and all of that. And my personal health, that probably comes before the business if I’m on those. And so then you go, okay, so then I prioritize.

The third one is like, well, I’ve got an abundance. There’s an abundance of opportunities. There’s an abundance of choices. There’s an abundance. When you go, ⁓ I’ve got to prioritize. You are claiming back your power. You are confident and you are clear now on what you need to do. That’s clarity and confidence in taking back your power. say, I’ve got an abundance of opportunity and abundance of choices. What happens? Your whole.

Megan North (13:06)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (13:21)
Physiology changes. You stand taller, you lift your chin, which means your brain’s sending signals to your body. Go girlfriend, you’ve got this, let’s go, right? You feel lighter and less bogged down. So that’s why overwhelms a choice. time. And hopefully we went off track.

Megan North (13:34)
Yep.

Yeah.

That’s what I know. It’s all right. That’s absolutely all relevant. And I think the thing is, too, is that, you know, if if there’s something is there’s something gruminating and bubbling away, it doesn’t mean that you have to quit your job and lose all your money from your job and pursue it wholeheartedly. Started on the side. That’s what I did with my angel card, oracle card readings and that my healings.

I was doing that while I was still working in my corporate role. then slowly it started to build and then you start to get, know, so it’s, it’s, it, it might feel like it’s really big and my gosh, how’s it going to work? But you’re right. It’s that first step.

Angela Bullock (14:25)
It’s the first step. Once you take that first step, can promise you, hand on heart, you will then be delivered the next step. Yes. And on that note, I never encourage women to, especially if we’re talking in a business situation, I never say leave your job, right? That’s a really old mentality of the coaching industry about 10 years ago, where we were led to believe if we didn’t leave everything, then we weren’t wholeheartedly like in pursuit of our desires.

absolute bullets. Yeah. Anything that’s gonna set your nervous system into chaos should never be done because what that’ll do is put you in paralysis and you will start making decisions based on your fears. Right? And you will invite people and you’ll invite people that say, you know, I’m the only solution. Spend all your savings on me and I’m like, no, that’s like the biggest red flag ever. Somebody ever says that to you?

Megan North (15:11)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (15:24)
That’s the red flag to run. And most of us have done that, right? But if you just step back and go, right, I’m going to do it on the side, little bit by little bit, I’m either going to put 10 minutes a day aside, half an hour a day aside, or every first Sunday of the month, I’m locking out life. And it’s just me and my passions and my dreams. But never, never put yourself in total chaos.

Megan North (15:26)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (15:52)
Because you generally lose your Maslow’s triangle, your basic needs. If your basic needs aren’t there, you aren’t going to be able to get very far. I hate to say it, you just won’t. Because you’ve got to have security, you’ve got to have food on the table, you’ve have warmth, you’ve got to have a roof over your head. You like jump and leave everything that helps you provide your basic needs.

Megan North (15:57)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I also think too, one of the things that I’ve learned over my journey is my inner circle. Like what do I tell certain people? Because I have a very tight knit group of in my inner circle who are the most incredible supporters of what I do. And so I have this beautiful small group that I share what I’m thinking.

to get their feedback usually. ⁓ If it’s something that I don’t want feedback for, I don’t even ask, I just go and do it. I mean, I’m not asking, but you know, but I feel that that also is ⁓ really important when you’re wanting to make a change or, you know, like I was very corporate HR, but I’ve got this real woo-woo side to me.

I kept that very quiet for a long time and just slowly worked on it in the side because you know what? I actually didn’t want to hear other people’s opinions because it didn’t matter to me. This was what I was doing. And so I think it’s also another piece of wisdom we can share to people is that think about who is in your circle and who do you trust and how many people do you actually need to tell at the beginning?

because then you’ll get all the naysay, my gosh, are you joking? I can’t believe you’re doing that. Fear comes in, you start to doubt yourself, you lose your confidence, it’s all of those things. So I think it’s also just being mindful of who you share things with.

Angela Bullock (17:50)
100%. And I think like, I, I’ll be even honest, even more honest to say is, I, the more women I work with, I’ve worked with thousands of women to this point. ⁓ Most of us don’t really even have a really tight inner circle. I myself am pretty much, it’s me. But, ⁓ and when you’re on the journey, one of the scariest things you’ll come across, and I don’t know if Megan you’ve experienced it, but

people that you thought that you go to all the way. And you’re like, my God, now I’ve got no one, now I’m Robinson Crusoe. And then the biggest mistake women then make is go, well, my family should support me. And I’m going to tell everybody right now, lean in close because you need to hear this. Your family are the very last people that will believe in you. They will be the very, very last people. And that’s because they see you have the breakdowns. They see you like just…

tears and the things that ugly cries and they don’t want you to be like that. So they’re like, please give up. And I always say to people, you have to be your biggest advocate. There’s going to be 50 % of you that at any given time doesn’t believe you can do it.

Yes, you can. We need to build up the 50 % of you that knows you can. When you were eight and you had on the cowboy hat, the Barbie tutu, the ballet shoes, and you had 30 of the oldest, ugliest pieces of jewelry that were, I don’t know if anybody else had the tin. My mom had this tin of all this. I rocked it. I thought I was the most beautiful thing on earth. And I didn’t care if anyone said I wasn’t.

felt it, that’s the muscle you need to lean back into because that version of you still exists. But we have to tap into it. And so now I don’t need other people in a circle for me. I’m like, well, is this what I want? Is this not what I want? I’ve learned to feel my body. And if people are like, well, how do I know that? Hot tip. You know, it’s what it’s, you know, it’s a yes. If your body feels lighter, taller, stronger.

Megan North (19:47)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (20:09)
You know it’s a no if your body feels heavier and you sink down. The first thing you’ll change will be your body language. You’ll go like this or you’ll go like this. And it’s just navigate that and start simple. Do I want this chocolate? Do I not want this chocolate? No. Okay. Yes. Eat it. Eat the whole block. If it’s what you want to do, there’s no rules. But when you tune into your own guidance system, your own intuitive, which is unique to only you.

Megan North (20:29)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (20:37)
Megan has her unique one. I have my unique one. Everyone watching has their unique guidance systems. They’re not the same, right? Yeah. And you just learn today. So my, my, my invitation to everyone right now watching this is this week, just practice with easy stuff, right? Don’t go with the big global question. Yeah. Yes. No, yes. No, yes. No. And you build that muscle and you’ve got to notice the words that you’re saying to yourself and be your advocate.

Be the advocate for your dreams.

Megan North (21:10)
Yeah, yeah. I, that is, my gosh, that is amazing. And I love that, that, that is such a beautiful piece of wisdom that you’ve shared that whole body, the body language piece, because you, when you think of things I can, I feel myself like, yeah, but then I have felt before other things I’m like, that doesn’t feel right. It’s really obvious. And it’s also then having that confidence to really trust.

what you’re feeling and to actually then honor that as well.

Angela Bullock (21:44)
So every time you honor a yes,

Megan North (21:48)
you get more yeses.

Angela Bullock (21:49)
get more yeses. Right. So I don’t know if I might be showing my age. I’m sure you know this, but I was at Indiana Jones and he had to step off and he couldn’t see. But then as each step came, the drawbridge came across. That is us. So to put it into like reality that most of us have done, we ever walked across a pond that’s got slippery rocks that you can’t see?

Megan North (21:59)
Yes

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (22:16)
There’s always somebody that’s brave enough to put their foot first. And they’re like, don’t step on that one. It’s slippery. Take this step. And so we follow the step. That’s your intuitive guidance system. And that’s why often you look to leaders to say like, did you slip on a slippery rock? Yeah, don’t take that one or try it. It might be your rock. Feel into your body because who am I to say no to you? That’s what you’re guided to do. But how can we support

Megan North (22:26)
Yeah

Yes.

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (22:46)
you in taking that. Like if you do sleep, you’ve got the ice pack to put on your butt because it hurts, right? Stuff like that. That’s, if you only ever learn that, you will get more confident as you realise that it feels good. It feels right. Now I will put a caveat, whenever we have to sit and do taxes, we’re still heavy.

Megan North (22:49)
Yes.

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (23:12)
But you need to say, that going to help me move forward? Yes, it is. So that’s when that question comes is like, do I really want to do this? Because whenever I have to think about doing my taxes, I instantly feel tired. ⁓

Megan North (23:28)
Yeah, but that’s just because it’s not your zone of genius and it’s you’re not an accountant, right? So it’s just more that, you know. ⁓

Angela Bullock (23:34)
mundane

job. That’s why you’ve always like, you know, if it feels easy, it’s meant for you. If your body’s screaming, yes, please start following them because they’re just so juicy and you’ll line up like a Christmas tree and people will be like, Oh my God, like what happened to you? Did you get the Botox? Did you get that? No, I just started honoring myself. And that’s when you own a room. When you own your space. And

And then what feels easy? Does it not feel easy? If it doesn’t feel easy, how can I make it easier? And is it moving me forward? Is it not moving me forward? There are three, that’s the only three things you have to navigate. else is trial or error.

Megan North (24:15)
Yeah, true. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And if it really is the taxes and get get an accountant or a

Angela Bullock (24:24)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Absolutely. Suck it up. It’s gonna help you move forward.

Megan North (24:35)
⁓ gosh, I knew this conversation would be just rich with so many golden nuggets. Honestly, I reckon all of our audience will be there writing down all these things going pause, writing pause. So thank you.

Angela Bullock (24:48)
And when you’ve mastered the pause, rewind, rewatch, I want you to do that in your brain. Pause, wake it up, fear, park it, park it. Move forward three days, promise you, put it in your diary, three days.

Megan North (27:07)
Welcome back everybody. We are here with Angela Bullock and we are, my gosh, golden nuggets flying everywhere. Everybody will walking out with a very heavy bag. A goody bag it is, it’s a very, very good goody bag. So Angela, can you share with us, how do you maintain balance and prioritize your mental wellbeing in the midst of pursuing your dreams?

Angela Bullock (27:18)
I’m putting it back.

Okay, so it’s funny because whilst we were in that little break, I was actually watching the sponsors. And so one was about, you know, looking after your vibration. Next was about honoring your inner child. And then it was you’re not broken, you’re becoming right. And it was all of that weaved in. And I thought that is exactly what kind of looking after your mental health is. It’s we’re never going to get the balance right.

I think we just need to let that go, right? Like balance doesn’t exist. just doesn’t. It might be that little moment that’s wall and something else happens, right? Like, and I think we, that’s part of some of our downfall that we have is we’ve got to find balance. We’ve got to find balance. When you’re in the pursuit of finding balance, you’re putting more pressure on yourself. That’s doing is it’s skewing the balance. First of all, I would say is know what your values are.

Like what matters to you? if I go to a move and don’t know my values, what matters to you, right? It matters that my children are happy and healthy. So for them to be happy and healthy, I need to have good food. I need to have the time to cook dinner. And so, you know, that matters. So I will often look at my schedule and go, what have I got going on? ⁓ cause I teach exercise classes as well. So, you know, it might be right.

Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, it’s slow cooker, right? So I do things like that. I navigate and look at my week ahead and go, what’s going to release some of that pressure from myself? Then it’s looking after your vibrations. So part of it is food and intake and looking after what matters to you. Second is you’ve got to move your body, right? So I teach exercise classes for that reason. I’ve been doing it since I was 16. If we weren’t born to move, we wouldn’t have been given

Megan North (29:08)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (29:25)
arms, legs and articulating joints. We would have been slugs, right? But we were made to move and through movement, we recalibrate and look after our frequency and our vibration. So normally the very thing we don’t want to do is the thing we need to do. Like, I don’t really feel like going to be able to I don’t really feel like going. But once you’ve done it on the other side, your vibrations lifted, you feel amazing. You then have greater clarity and confidence to pursue what comes next. Right?

So there’s that, there’s honoring the inner child, like honoring what makes you happy. When you honor what makes you happy, and I’m not talking about what makes everybody else happy. It’s what makes you happy. When you’re happy, everybody else is happy then. Oh, look at that. You didn’t need to make them happy first. No, you didn’t. Right. That then starts making you feel better. That then starts making other things fall away. Like that’s the ridiculous part of it is.

Megan North (30:06)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (30:25)
we build up this like, I don’t know, like Jenga. Has anyone played Jenga where the rocks go on top of each other and you’re like, slowly pull one out and hope and pray they don’t fall down. The things that are gonna fall down are the things that were meant to fall down all along. So part of it is looking after my physical body, looking after what really matters to me, and then being an advocate for myself again, it’s notice what I’m noticing.

Am I speaking really crappy to myself? Well, that has to stop. And I give myself a good talking to, right? I’m the coach that people come to when they don’t want to just hear fluffy stuff. I’ll turn around and say what you need to hear because everyone else is too scared to say it. I know that’s what we need, but you need to get really good at saying that to yourself too. Say, you know what? That’s a lie. That’s not the truth. That’s some concocted idea in my mind came up with. I’m going to change that.

Megan North (30:56)
Yeah.

Yep.

Angela Bullock (31:22)
I don’t know if they quite answer the question, but it’s this the three layers, right? You have to look after your physical body. You have to look after your space and what matters to you most. You have to honor your inner child and then everything will start falling away. What’s meant to fall away.

Megan North (31:38)
Yeah, yeah. And I love that you saying too about ⁓ it starts with you because I think that’s really important. And I also think ⁓ in what you were talking about too, it’s about finding what works for you. So for you, you know, you’ve always done exercise classes and you teach them that works for you. But other people may do like I’m a walker. I just love walking ⁓ so much out of out of every exercise.

Angela Bullock (32:07)
So.

Megan North (32:07)
whatever

do just going for a good walk for me does it for me. It’s just the thing I love. But that that works for me. Other people then are about journaling or meditate. It’s it’s there’s no I just I think there’s so much out there about people when they say you should you should you should and it’s and to me I think my gosh one of my nieces says used to say to me years ago when I used to should she’d say ⁓ Aunty Megan.

Are you shuddering all over yourself? Yeah. And so I think it’s work out what works well for you. What what do you like? And actually, what do you like? Journal if you’re not a journal.

Angela Bullock (32:38)
See you later.

Yeah. Don’t… No,

no, no. But I do, will say, I’m trying to think of another word than should. We, it would be optimal for you to prioritize movement in your We are energetic beings. It’s as simple as that. And as I said, if you were not meant to move, you wouldn’t have been given thumbs, fingers, arms, legs, right? ⁓

And most of the time when we’re stuck in fear or we’re stuck in just like everything, life just happening. And I don’t know about everyone else, but when stuff happens, when bad stuff seems to happen, it seems to compound, right? You’re like, my God, it’s all falling on top of me all at once. We have to move our body. When you move your body, things get clearer as we block ourselves up, right? So, you know,

Megan North (33:30)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (33:41)
Find a way of movement that you love. Or rope somebody else into it that’s gonna help you accountable and be the one that goes, no, no, no, we’re not doing that, we’re moving. And you’re kicking and screaming, I promise it’ll work on the other side, right? But a lot of our blockages, a lot of our limiting beliefs, a lot of trauma, it all gets stored in our body, it all gets stored in our muscles. And the only way to shift it is through moving it.

Right. So if you’re angry, address it. Right. The best anger you can, the best thing to do for anger that you will ever do is break stuff. That sounds terrible. Get a wooden spoon and just smash it into a pillow and scream what you need to say. Then go and address what’s going on. But you have to take radical responsibility because essentially you’re the one responsible for any way that you react.

Megan North (34:27)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (34:37)
So we’re either responders or we’re reactors. 99 % of the world are reactors. They blow up at everything. The responders, I like to think of it like professional basketball. If you went and watched professional basketball, like someone will throw them the ball, they hold it and they’re looking. They’re looking at their options. Where’s the easiest path? How is it going to get me to what I want? Which is the basket, right?

Megan North (34:45)
Yeah, yeah.

more.

Angela Bullock (35:06)
Where if you go and look at kids playing basketball, these are like, ⁓ right, right, right, right, right. So check in. Are you a professional basketball player? Are you a responder? And meaning you accept what’s going on and you look at it and you go, okay, well, this is going on. What do want to do with it? Do I want to offload it here? Do I want to break it down into smaller parts? Take a, take a beat or two. Maybe it’s like, well, I just want to put it here for a minute.

Megan North (35:21)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (35:33)
I’m going to take a walk. I’m going to move. I’m going to scream. I’m going to cry. I’m going to do whatever I need to dissipate it out of your muscles because that’s where it gets stored. And then I’ll come back to it because I can guarantee when you do that, you’ll find the solutions or it’ll magically have disappeared.

Megan North (35:49)
Disappeared, yeah, absolutely.

Angela Bullock (35:51)
Be the responder

and not the reactor. That’s biggest thing. without shooting all over you, I’m a massive advocate for movement because that’s what gets everything firing and working properly. Your motor neurons work properly. Your brain fires properly. When your brain’s firing properly, you are on fire.

Megan North (36:12)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that. Yeah, beautiful. The power of the pause. The power of the pause.

Angela Bullock (36:19)
The power. So

whole monkey mind madness app that I created was all about the pause. It was about the pause and noticing the thoughts that you’ve got. And in that app, I used to say to the kids, right. All your thoughts down. Right. And then for 20 minutes, focus on your English homework or your math homework. When that timer goes off, you’re going to pick up that piece of paper and go, what do I want to do? Or what fears have I got? And I’d say stall those fears.

And in three days from time, we get the piece of paper out and go, my God, that was rubbish. You know, I’m going to file my exam. Most kids don’t fail their exam. Most don’t. But I think they’re going to. And when you can start proving your fears wrong, that’s when you step into the next.

Megan North (37:00)
Yeah.

Absolutely. And I think it’s real. love that you’ve spoken about that a couple of times in relation to from a frequency point of view, because I’m going to get really woo woo here. But with all our guides and our angels and everyone that that energetically and spiritually looks after us, they they can’t. My understanding is they can’t. They don’t understand our 3D logical wording. They just understand vibration.

And so when we feel uplifted and when we’re excited, they go, ⁓ you love this. I’m going to give you more of that. ⁓

Angela Bullock (37:46)
Now I’m going to tell you more. Now you’re listening. Now I’ll give you more. Turned on. Right. Think about it guys. Like it wasn’t really that long ago. We didn’t have the power of speech. We didn’t talk. We grunted. So back then, how did they communicate? How did they assess their needs? How did they know what they want? And so tuned in to their physical energetic.

Megan North (37:51)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (38:16)
being, our bodies tell us, right? Then our thoughts come in and then our words come out and then our actions proceed. So when you get really good at tuning your body and noticing your thoughts, you then you reclaim your power and you don’t need anybody else then to validate it.

Megan North (38:35)
Yeah, absolutely. I love that. I love that. So if you could say if you can only say one thing to other women who were starting over, doesn’t matter where they are, if they’re midlife, if they’re early, if they’re later on in life, what would that be? Like what piece of wisdom could you give them?

Angela Bullock (38:46)
with.

I would say take yourself somewhere quiet, somewhere that honors your inner child or your soul. Like for some people that might be in the bush, for some people that might be on a beach, some people that might be underneath the covers of their bed. Like where is it that you just honor part of yourself? Get a piece of paper and just write down everything you wish you had, everything you wish you’d done, everything that you want in life without the filter of I can’t.

Is that the filter of what will somebody else think if I do it? Just no one’s going to see it but you. No one’s going to see it from you. When my whole marriage broke down, and I mean, I was kind of blessed because I was a therapist already. I gave a piece of paper to my husband and I said, I want you to go away for a day. And I just want you to imagine the marriage that you would like to have. Not to me. Doesn’t have to be to me. Even if you want to be married at all, like what do you want? And I went and did the same thing.

Megan North (39:46)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (39:53)
Right. And then you have to honor that. So just turn all of the noise out because that’s all it is. And just go to somewhere that you’re honoring yourself. What is it? What is that? really want. There was nothing stopping me or if they even if there is stuff stopping you, it doesn’t matter. Write it down because you’ll find a way. You’ll find a way. promise you.

Megan North (40:18)
Yeah, yeah, I love that. That’s really beautiful. Yeah. And I love that you’re talking about, you know, stepping back, stepping away and just having that time for yourself. I think that that’s really important because that in itself is honoring you already just by doing that. Yeah. Yeah.

Angela Bullock (40:36)
You can’t, it’s probably one of the only times I’ll say can’t, can’t do it when you’ve got Netflix showing in front of you. You can’t do it when you’ve got mom, mom, or you can’t do it when people are around you. Like you, you really have to go so you can just breathe and relax and take up space without feeling judged or criticized or like you need to perform. once you’ve met you and you feel safe, right? You feel safe to do this. Then you’re like,

What do I want? know, what is it I wish I could do? Just step into the wishing well. You don’t have to do anything with the wishes if you don’t want to. That’s the beauty of it. You know, but if you do. We’re here and let’s make it happen because that’s my favourite place.

Megan North (41:07)
⁓ Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that. So do you have any practices or rituals that you incorporate into your daily life to stay grounded and focused?

Angela Bullock (41:36)
Breathing, So, and there’s no special breathing. It’s, say just stop and breathe until you can feel your feet. Okay. So until you can feel your feet. And the reason is I’ve got ADHD. If you haven’t figured that out already, and I’ve got a thousand things going and I’m multi-passionate as I think we, most of us are right. If you’re not multi-passionate, I’d be like, babe, I’m pretty sure you are. You just try not to, right? Be multi-passionate.

Be all of you, right? I love lots and lots of different things. But at any given time, I can step into, my God, I’m overwhelmed. Like that’s what it feels like in my head. Like, so I say, just breathe until you can feel your feet because when you can feel your feet, you are grounded. my question to you is when was the last time you felt your feet? Because we all just work from the shoulders up, right? We’re all like, my God, I feel so tense. my God, my head hurts.

That’s because everything’s happening here up, right? And then we sink down into fear and then it’s fear up. When do you feel your feet? Feel your feet and then I what we call posture eyes. We roll our shoulders back. We step back. Now I become a pure channel. Now from this place, what do I want? What’s the easiest way I know how to get there? Or what comes after the butt? Because sometimes it’s like

Okay, let’s onto that. Gaslight yourself. Listen to what comes after the butt, because it’s probably not true. Or you can work your way around the ⁓ But the biggest practice I have, and then I’ll always repeat to myself what it is that I’m working on. Right. And that can literally be like so often I’ll sit down and go, no, Angela, we’re just washing up the dishes. Right. Cause he doesn’t want to, I’ll just do this and then I’ll go do this and then I’ll go do this and right.

Angela, breathe. Go your feet. What are we doing right now? What is the task at hand? Let’s get that done.

Megan North (43:39)
Right. And that’s really bringing you back into presence, isn’t it? Like that exact moment.

Angela Bullock (43:46)
Yeah. And then the next thing I would recommend people do is at the end of the day, can they, especially women, men are really, really good at this. are so good at this. Men go to bed and even if they’ve only emptied the dishwasher for the day, go, I so good. I emptied the dishwasher today. Yay me. Right? Right. Women may have emptied the dishwasher, done the ironing, vacuumed the floors, run the, done all these things and we get into bed and we tell ourselves all the things we didn’t.

Megan North (44:14)
Yeah, yes

Angela Bullock (44:16)
saying my god I did this what did you do today even if it’s only did the dishwasher I can guarantee you did more than that right just instead of my god I didn’t get this done and I didn’t get this done right that’s that’s a whole other shooting all over yourself there’s a different letter in the middle of that but you know what did you do start giving yourself credit for the stuff you got done ⁓ and if you are

Megan North (44:21)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (44:44)
in an exceptionally challenging part of the day, if you got out of bed and you managed to shower and have basic hygiene, you’re winning. But we don’t validate it, right? So when we’re not self validating, we’re seeking outside validation. And that’s when you give your power.

Megan North (44:53)
Yeah.

Yep, yep, absolutely.

Angela Bullock (45:05)
Prince tips and you don’t know what to do and yeah, yeah, I’ve bogged you down at that point.

Megan North (45:08)
Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Do you think that that’s like a DNA thing with women that we’re just we’re just always really good at?

Angela Bullock (45:21)
⁓

Think about it when we were all like very hairy beasts and we really only talked in grunts, right? The men had one job, go fetch food, kill the beast, bring it back. That was their job done. Women were in the cave talking to each other, knitting, making sure that the kids didn’t fall in the fire, making sure that some intruder didn’t come to the cave. We had to have all our spidey senses on.

Megan North (45:36)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (45:51)
Right. Now we transfer it into the modern life. We don’t compartmentalize like men do. Right. We mesh everything together and where they still have that one job. So if anyone, there’s a really good Ted talk on it, but men have brains that are like boxes. Right. They’ll have boxes in their head. So, but once upon a time, their box was I sleep, eat, I kill beast. Right.

Megan North (46:02)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (46:18)
Now they’ve got the family box, the work box, the maybe this box, this box. So if they’re in work, they’re in their work box. they’re out of work, they’re in their family box, right? And this is why women in business, essentially, we take things so personally because they are personal, because our family box isn’t a box. It’s like bubble and squeak. You know when you’ve got mashed potato and you put the leftover veggies in it and you mash it all up? That’s us. We’re like an intertwined wool ball.

You put your jewelry in the jewelry box and somehow it manages to like all knot up. You’re like, how did that happen? What’s our brains? Right. And that’s because back in the day we had to always look at all the different things that were going on around us. We men didn’t have that. But if you can learn to go, right, now I’m just doing the dishes, I’m in the doing the dishes box. Now I’m in the dream box and I’m pursuing this passion.

Megan North (47:04)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (47:15)
Now I’m in the mum box and I’m doing that. If we can learn to bring some of that into our life by being present and grounded and going, what is it that I’m working on right now? We get greater clarity and we have less of that.

Megan North (47:30)
Yeah,

and as you were saying that I was thinking it’s almost, because I do my gratitude process every day when I’m on my walk. So that’s when I get my brain is quite empty when I’m walking, I touch trees, I do my gratitude, I connect into all of my, you know, all of my sources. And but the other thing that I think I’m going to start to incorporate is what have I achieved today?

Or as a reflection of yesterday, I achieved this today, you know, because it’s almost another practice that I can bring in of going, wow, yesterday that was incredible because I did this, this and this or this morning I’ve done this, this and this.

Angela Bullock (48:11)
So

freaking amazing. listener right now, are the most amazing magical unicorn on this earth. But you choose not to see it. So I want you to start seeing it. Another thing I do do differently is when I wake up in the morning and my brain’s still fuzzy, I’ll say to myself things like, you know, cash flows into my life. I always know what to do. I always make the best decisions. I can navigate anything life brings me with ease, right?

I had that like a practice where, you know, I used to write those things down. Now I’ve just taught myself to say it as I come in. I used to listen to subliminals and that back in the beginning, but I’ve just, I’ve just built that muscle myself. But I, and in listening to this, people might be like, my God, now I don’t know where to start. There’s so many things to take away and get started. my invitation to everybody right now is what is one thing that you’ve heard today?

Megan North (48:54)
Yeah.

Angela Bullock (49:10)
Right. From this conversation that Megan and Angela are having, what’s one thing that you go, my God, that really resonated with me. I’m just going to focus on that and just do that for like 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. Don’t, cause that’s what people are like, Oh my God, now I’ve got to do all the things. No. Choose one. I’m sure Megan’s got this recording somewhere. You can go and watch it again later. Yeah. later and just build, build the muscle.

Megan North (49:26)
Yeah. ⁓ Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Yeah.

Angela Bullock (49:40)
learned to walk by getting up and walking. You crouched across the ground first, then you started crawling, then you fell over and then you were navigating furniture. Why do we not give ourselves grace in life as adults to do as we did then?

Megan North (49:42)
Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly. And you know what I said about what I do on my walk, that’s been a long time. Like that’s been a process. What I’m now saying is great. I’ve got another thing that now I’m going to start to practice to put into my pro. It’s habit stacking. If anyone’s ever read Atomic Habits by James Clear, he talks about getting a habit and nailing that for this, you know, 60, 90 days, then adding something new to it. So for me, that’s a new habit.

that I’m going to stack into my already existing habit.

Angela Bullock (50:27)
comes to habit stacking, always attach a new habit to somewhere where it’s easily going to be achieved, right? So on you, for you, for example, Megan, that would be easy for you to achieve on your walk. But don’t put it on, ⁓ when I’m cooking dinner, that’s when I’m going to do it. That’s probably not the best place to that brand new habit because I don’t know about you, but cooking dinner.

the range hoods going, there’s people around, we’re normally hungry ourselves, it’s the end of the day, we’re a bit narky. That’s not the time to go, I’ve got to have a gratitude practice, right? That’s the time to just have a like.

Megan North (51:03)
Yeah, exactly,

yeah, yeah, that’s right. So it’s being really mindful of where is it gonna fit into my day?

Angela Bullock (51:10)
Where

is the easiest place I can start this? The three questions. Where is the easiest place I can do that? Right? Is this habit going to help me move forward? If it’s a yes, then I’m definitely going to do it and I’m going to make it easy. Right? Don’t make it hard. It’s meant to be hard. that note, I’m going to say this because I find most women have this. They feel that if it’s hard, it’s they’re more worthy of having the outcome and it’s not the case.

Megan North (51:27)
No, exactly.

Angela Bullock (51:40)
What comes easily to you is what you’re meant to do because it comes easy to you, right? It doesn’t come easy to somebody else, right? Something else comes easy to them. So you’re meant to follow your ease, right? You’re meant to follow your ease. You’re meant to follow your life. That is your true north.

Megan North (51:47)
Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Yes,

yes, beautiful. my gosh, you’ve just tied that up beautifully in a beautiful bow. Thank you. Just in a beautiful heart. So now we really only do have a couple of minutes left. So I’ll ask you the same question that I ask all of my guests before we close out. So what is one lesson or truth that you’ve learned on your journey that you wish you had known earlier?

Angela Bullock (52:11)
You

Thank

Same thing, I wish everybody knew how freaking amazing we are. We are just amazing. We are so freaking amazing. You are so freaking amazing. Like hello, you are breathing. You don’t even think about your heart beating. It happens like holy moly. Honor it, look after it, love it, love you in whatever form you are right now and give yourself permission to follow your ease.

Megan North (52:34)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Angela Bullock (53:00)
your dreams.

Megan North (53:02)
Yeah, I love that. Thank you. That’s really beautiful. Really beautiful. Thank you. Thank you so much for bringing inspiration, ⁓ incredible energy to our conversation. I’ve learned so much more about you and I just, always really grateful to have these conversations. So thank you for joining us today.

Angela Bullock (53:23)
been an absolute privilege to spend time with you and everybody watching. Thank you so much.

Megan North (53:28)
Angela and I’d also like to thank all of our amazing and dedicated audience, our supporters and our sponsors and I hope that you all have an amazing and wonderful rest of the week and I look forward to seeing you all again next week. Thanks again, Ange.